In Clint Eastwood's "Million Dollar Baby"

Eddie Scrap-Iron Dupris: All fighters are pig-headed some way or another: some part of them always thinks they know better than you about something. Truth is: even if they're wrong, even if that one thing is going to be the ruin of them, if you can beat that last bit out of them... they ain't fighters at all.

E o mesmo é válido para artistas, se bem que, estando a falar de "lutadores", esta observação é redundante.